>> jamie: my mom baked red velvet cupcakes for everybody. >> eric: thank you. >> happy mothers day. >> shannon: a firestorm over the irs decision to target certain political groups is getting hotter. a draft by the inspector general is calling into question who knew what, when. hadt says that senior officials at the irs knew that agency were putting tea peafert groupsurn the microscope. but the irs is pinning it on low-level employees, saying it was not politically motivate the doos doos has -- peter doocy has more. >> reporter: lawmakers are fired up about the irs targeting groups that.

and it will add to the distrust that many have of the federal government. >> it is absolutely chill that this irs was singling out conservative groups for extra review. i think it's very disappointing that the president hasn't personally condemned this. >> reporter: nearly two full years ago on june 29, 2011, lois learner, the director of the irs division in charge of tax-exempt status was part of a briefing where she learned groups were set sside for extra security if they had tea party, patriot or 912 in their title. and those with government debt had their cases stont specialists. learner ordered that criteria changed right away. but she is still saying, she is sorry. >> i think we, the irs, would

like to apologize for that. it was not intentional. as soon as we found out what was going on, we took steps to plac it better. i don't expect those things to re-occur. >> reporter: after lois lerner ordered the change, her boss, the irs commissioner, denied any knowledge of targeting conservative groups ever -- at least five times. now the white house is saying if the inspector general finds any rules were broken or they didn't meet the standards required of them, the president expects that swift and appropriate steps will be taken to address any misconduct. irs commissioner, doug shulman, appointed by president bush and served for 6 years, left office in november, at the end of his term. >> shannon: he may be called back for more questions. >> i don't care if you are a

conservative, liberal, conservative or republican, this should send a chill your spine. this is something that we cannot let stand. >> shannon: that was congressman mike rogers on fox"fox news sunday," commenting on the scandal. with us, via skype, a senator who questioned treasury secretary about about how the irs has handled private information, considering conservative groups and their donor list as well. senator, thank you for joining us. >> great to be with you. >> shannon: do you think you will get support across the aisle. as your colleague in the other house, congressman mike rogers said, folks across the spectrum should be concerned if the irs is having political attacks made >> shannon, absolutely. this is not a conservative/liberal issue. all americans ought to be interested that the applications for an irs exemption are appropriately handled. from a tax code point of view.

but no american ought to be pleased that political information is being used for political purposes. doesn't matter what your political stripes are. this is highly offensive. this harkens back to days of president nixon and the use of the irs for political purposes. at that point in time -- and i would expect it in america today -- you would see across the board, members of congress trying to find out what the facts are and if those facts demonstrate wrongdoing, heads should roll. >> shannon: what we have been told is that policies were changed. this was corrected. i will ask you, first, if you are convinced that this has been rectified. you mentioned heads will roll. but from what we torunderstand, there has been no discipline and then the follow-up was that they can't comment on personnel actions. >> we are very anxious to see the inspector general's report, expected out in the next few days.

that nonpartisan report, analysts will tell us, as best shows, is what happened and when it happened, who knew and who knew what and what the reaction was. i think the more damaging -- this is a bad thing that any group it would be signaled out, based upon their political leanings, but i had the opportunity to question the new secretary of the treasury, jack lew last week on this topic. and while the release of the information supposedly inadvertent, is what word was used -- but the thing that really bothers me is that this information about who the donors were -- we are learning about how the irs signaled out conservative groups. the next step is to find out the reality-- the truth of that fact. but also, don't forget that the irs eye believe there are three circumstances in which we know that donor informs was provided

to grews across the country that were then used in political efforts. and so conservative donor groups -- that information was provided to liberal groups so the conservatives could be attacked. there is more to this story than signaling out conservative groups. in my view, the next question is, once they are signaled out, how is that information used? and was it used in political campaigns? liberals against conservatives? >> shannon: there will be some type of hearing to probe that. i want to ask you quickly, we are almost out of time, there have been calls for the president to publicly repudiated this. we do have a statement from jay carney say figure they find out irs standards were broken, the president expects swift and appropriate steps will be taken for any misconduct. is that good enough for you? would you like the president to speak out personal? >> i think this is so offensive. certainly as the facts are known, what we know today is

offensive. i think it's important, it's appropriate, it's negligence, for president obama to take ownership. this is not a political issue. it has been reported that the commissioner was appoint bide president bush. but we need to know what has happened since that information was provided to higher-why you weres at the irs. this is agan administration issue, not just an iremarks issue. >> shannon: thank you for joining us. >> you're welcome, thank. >> when ambassador stevens talked to you, perhaps minutes before he died, as a dying declaration, what precisely did he say to you? >> he said, greg, we are under attack. >> shannon: republican congressman tray gowdy is one of the most outspoken critics of how the obama administration has handled the dangerous situation in benghazi before, during and after the attacks that left four americans dead. today, even after the testimony of three whistle-blowers he says there are many unanswered

questions. he joins us now, live. thank you for tuning in with us today? >> yes, ma'am. happy mothers day. >> jamie: -- >> shannon: thank you very much. a lot of colleagues have said this is a political witch-hunt that the whistle-blowers are being used for political purposes by republicans. they say there was nothing new they learn from the hearing. but i have to ask youp about something you mentioned specific that was new to me -- maybe they knew this. an email in september, i believe on september 12 that involves the active secretary for near eastern affair, beth jones. for folk who is didn't see the hearing, walk us through that? >> september 12, in fact, just after noon, september 12 and beth jones, an acting assistant secretary of state, sent an email, essentially telling the libyan ambassador that we know

that this attack was conduct bide a terror group. this is the day after benghazi. you fast forward and president obama and secretary clinton and ambassador rice areuc talking about a video, a spontaneous, not pre-planned, not premeditated demonstration. they knew on september 12 that that was wrong. you go through the 12 iterations of the talking points and victoria nuland, the spokesperson for the department of state, wanted the talking points edited because they were fearful that the department of state would be criticized. my colleagues -- so you know -- my colleagues always say that -- it's not true, it's not true and then they say it's old news. you are never going to get them to say, that's an interesting revelation in the hearing. but trust me, they were surprisemented they didn't know it. the administration didn't know we had that email. it was a damaging to the narrative put forth by jay carny

and this administration. >> shannon: speaking of damage, you said to the families of the victims, you said, you don't care -- quote, don't give a damn whose careers are impacted. you are going to get the answers. at this point, with four american lives losten and and many others in danger, whose career do you think is being protected at this point? [chuckles] >> well, i think prior to november's election, it was a concerted effort to savor guard and protect the president's second-term aspirations. he's been re-elected, in part because we didn't have all the answers to benghazi. dubut let's don't kid each other, hillary clinton wants to be the president of the united states. if he wants to rub, that's great. but she is going to give an accounting for why she was obsessed with benghazi. why she approved a facility that didn't need meet specifications. ey she is going to give an account on what role if any not to send assets in the siege and

she meest assuredly will give an accounting for the role she played in keeping the truth from the american people for weeks and months and months after benghazi. the only explanation i can come up with, people don't lie when the truth service them better. they don't. they tell the truth when it serves them better. we are going to find out why they misled us and we are going to find out, no matter how many witnesses we have to call and how many "saturday night live" skits want to mog it, we are going to find out whether hillary clinton like its or not. >> reporter: what about the allegations that this is all about stopping hillary clinton from becoming president in 2016? >> i wish i had the power to do that. whether she runs for president is something she will have to decide. she can't have it both ways. you can't go on a farewell tour, talking about how great you were as the secretary of state and not have to be held responsible

and accountable for decisions made on your watch. let's assume arguendo she wants to run for president, we call that commandener chief, right? that's the commander in chief. so is she eligible for a promotion? based on how she handled the body of work that she hash as the secretary of state? i may not be in politics in 2016 -- who knows where i will be? i will tell thu. i'm a former prosecutor that has looked at spouses and parents and children who have suffered at the hands of murderers. if nothing else, politics aside, i want to give those family members the peace of knowing what happened to their loved ones and the politics can fall wherever it may. >> shannon: congressman, gowdy, we know this is frar over. thanks for making time for us today. >> yes, ma'am, thank you. >> shannon: in trenton, new jersey, authority says two bodies have been found in a home where a days-long hostage

standoff came to an end this morning. it is believed 44-year-old marmleita stevens and her teenaged son. stevens may have died two weeks ago. her three other children were rescued when the suspect was shot and killed, gerald murphy. >> murphy was wounded wounded an to the medical center and he has since died of his juries. >> reporter: murphy was stevens' boyfriend. the three children were taken to the hospital for evaluation and treatment. a 12-year-old in northern california is being charged with his sister's murder. 8-year-old leila fowler was found stabbed to death in april. the boy at the time made accusations about a gray-haired intruder in the home. >> reporter: shanoon, police had a massive manhunt, search dogs,

dragging a nearby lake, pulling in parolees and sex offenders. clearly, police believed the initial story that the boy and his storysister were home while the parents attended a little league game. the boy claims to have seen the killer with long gray hair, flee the house. he called 911 and a neighbor initially corroborated that story and later recanted. police had combed the house for fingerprints and dnscpa likely came up empty on the intruder and began to focus on the 12-year-old brother. heed hiding in plain sight, seen many times publicly, including a candle-light vigil. leila died from multiple stab wounds. police seized several knives from the home. the brother and sister were close and friends say he treated her well. imagine the shock when police announce that the killer was leila's brother. >> citizens can sleep a little

better tonight. this is still an active investigation where we know -- you may have many questions. i will not be providing any information about this investigation at this time. >> reporter: now, the boy's name and face are widely available. but since he is a minor, we have chosen not to reveal either. police say he will be charge wednesday murder, charge wednesday murder. this is an allegation at this point. >> shannon: william, thank you very much. new developments in the horrific case out of cleveland, three women held captive and tortured for years. garret? >> reporter: we have brand-new view of the police rescue and new statements from the three women. iville that story, coming up, shannon? >> shannon: you have to see it to believe it. ice crashing into homes as the spring thaw comes in two different place this is weekend. the amazing scenes, next.

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>> shannon: have you to see this to believe it. two dangerous run-ins with ice, 600 miles apart. this thaw of ice came into homes. hundreds of miles north, the same thing happened in a rural area near winnipeg, canada. a giant wall of ice slammed through 20 homes there. it is unbelievable, looking at the pictures. but nobody was hurt in either incident. an ohio prosecutor may seek the death penalty for the man accused of holding three women hostage more than a decade, as new details emerge about the conditions the women endured.

>> reporter: good morning, shannon. the three women, telling police that they were bound with ropes and chains, raped and beaten repeatedly over 10 years in captivity. now we have dramatic video of their rescue. a neighbor capturing it on her sole phone. you can see on the front porch of the home, police swarming the home, preparing to break down the front door, this, of course, after amanda berry's heroic 911 phone call after she escaped. this past hour, lawyers released statements from the three women, thanking the community and the police for the outpour of support and love from the past week and the past 10 years. gina dejosussaying they are so happy to be home. they are asking the public, the media and everybody for time while they heal and as they try to adjust to life outside captivity. take a listen. >> they have asked, in fact have

pleaded... for privacy at this time so they can continue to scmeal reconnect with their families and their lives. >> reporter: of course, today is a very special day for these three women. it is the first mothers day they will have the opportunity to be with their family in over 10 years. gina dejesus's mothers is calling it the best mothers day present ever. >> shannon: a bitave miracle. thank you very much. it is a difficult road ahead for immigration reform. needs proof? check out the heated questions and divisions at the gaining of 8's immigration hearing this week. up next i will talk to seen the jon kyl about whether the plan has any chance. a very, very happy mothers day to all of you, including my own mom. i wish to be half the woman she is. thanks, mom. happy mothers day to all the mothers of america's news

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and rebuild a new school in its place that. plan has to be approved by the school board. the first canonization ceremony, pope francis has given the church 800 new italians killed in the 15th century by turkish invadessers were all canonized and named as saints two, latin american women and a columbian nun and a woman who nursed the sick. for thousands of people across the country, it's graduation time. yesterday, our own shannon bream became the first woman to ever give the commencement address at her alma mater, liberty university. >> whether you decide to home school a house full of children, win a grammy, launch a ministry or run for president -- i hope someone in this class will -- there will be those ever anxious to criticize your choices, to tell you, it can't be done. but i am here to tell you, don't

listen to them. [cheers and applause] >> shannon: congrats to everyone at liberty and the other graduates out there. shannon? >> shannon: it was a great day. it blows me away to see the next generation coming through. it wasn't that long ago for you. >> reporter: watching your sweech speech, it was great. i did. >> shannon: thank you, peter. >> reporter: yeah. >> i am not impugning anyone's motives, i am rejecting the view that this does nothing on border security and i said, even if we did everything on border security, if a bill had a path to citizenship, you would not support it. those are your own words. that's all i said. >> if the senior senator from new york didn't mean to impugn my intention and say the real reason i was supporting border security was the path to citizenship, i accept that

clarification. >> shannon: that's about as gentlemanly as it could have been. there has been a lot of heat. the senate judiciary committee took up the so-called gang. 8's immigration plan that create ace path to citizenship for 11 million illegal immigrants, but getting the boil through congress will be no seas feat. here's former arizona senator jon kyl. >> nice to be here on a beautiful mothers day. >> shannon: it's a beautiful day. have you run this gauntlet on the hill, many times. you found compromise. but it is not easy to do on a topic like this. >> this is very complicated and very politically driven. the last time it had a shot was 2007 when i was involved. this is the best shot since then. but it will be very, very difficult. you saw there two of the champions -- two of the sides here, going at it. the senate judiciary committee will be the scene of the back

and forth, all this week. after they finish with it. i predict they will adopt a bill, then tell go to the senate floor, probably in june. >> shannon: do you think there is going to be a lot of pressure on the g.o.p. to coalesce, because there are people who have strong objections and questions. we saw senator ted cruz, he is one of them. there are others. would it be beneficial to find a common ground signal they be allowed to offer amendments? >> the democratic leader, harry reid will be smart if he allows the process to work through the regular order -- meaning you bring the bill to the floor from the judiciary committee, you allow amendments and time for debate, even if it takes two or three weeks,s a big deal and it requires that much time. and then have you a final vote. and it is adopted. then it is more meaningful if the house of representatives. if he were to try to jam it through, republicans could come plain that they didn't have all

of the parliamentiary rights they are intielged to it and it would have a harder road in the house of representatives. i think he will give it a good two or three weeks in june so it has more saliency in the house of representatives. >> shannon: what role should the president be playing? we are looking at a bipartisan group of senators. but ultimately, it would land on his desk. >> this is a matter of debate. i don't think it's inappropriate to say on both sides, both of them are just as soon stay in the background. if he wades into this, it make its partisan and more difficult for republicans. i think the democrats are doing just fine. i think i would subscribe to the view as long as it's moving forward, it is better for will him not to engage in a way that the republicans could react negatively to because of partisanship. >> shannon: this is a large, comprehensive measure. but in that respect, every time folks dig in and they find a new

nugget they are unhappy with, it creates problems for bill. do you see it as one big reform package? or do you think they pick it off? >> i think the senate will pass a big, comprehensive bill, probably after more amendments are adopted. in the house of representatives, it is unclear. one theory is that different committee chairman will take och different bills. for example, in the judiciary committee, they may take up the e-verify bill, requiring employers to use the social security database to confirm eligibility for employment. they may go at it one bill at a time and bring those bills independently to the floor or try to put them into comprehensive bill on the floor. i don't know what they are going to do there. with an issue like this, it is very difficult to do it one piece at a time because the side that doesn't get what they want wants to hold off support until they get what they want.

you put together a comprehensive bill. that's why, even though it's unwe wouldy in a way, the comprehensive bill that the senate is moving forward on does make some sense. >> shannon: we'll see how it plays out. britain's prince harry will be in colorado springs to start the warrior game, a u.s. parolympic event for ilscpil injured service members and veterans. we have more from colorado. >> reporter: how are you, shannon? it's kicking off here in the next half an hour to hour or so. prince harry will be arriving here to begin a couple of cycling event, kicking off the warrior games. we saw the prince yesterday with missy franklin and brad snyder, starting the actual games by lighting the flame. the prince was part of the torch relay that kicked off in ernest, a moving event as around 300

injured personnel arrived to see the opening ceremony take place. and then, about an hour after the opening ceremony, we saw prince harry really getting quite involved in a sitting volleyball competition. prince harry is quite renowned for being highly competitive. had a few words with the referee, nall jest, of course. but he really wanted to be part of the team. it's a real leveler, sitting volleyball, so he may be able bodied, but he was on a level with all the guys playing and helped the british team to victory. prince harry was at a media event. can't go into detail. all kisay, he is absolutely enjoying the warrior games and he is fanatical about making sure it gets as much compel as possible. >> shannon: he has added his name to a worthy cause. thank you very much. it's a gruesome murder case.

jurors have been deliberating more than two weeks in the kermit gosnell abortion trial. we'll look what the jurors may be struggling with at this point. ♪

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>> shannon: the jury resumes deliberations on membered in the trial of a philadelphia abortion doctor accused of warning. the report may contain deil tails that some find disturbing. >> reporter: a source tells fox that the jury told the judge they are, quote, drain the, after nine days of deliberating. so they went home early for the weekend and will be back at it on monday. they have heard grisly testimony about what prosecutors say what went on in dr. kermit gosnell's abortion clinic. some legal analysts say jurors may be struggling over the

first-degree murder part of the case, whether or not four babies survived abortions and were alive as the prosecution argues when dr. goes on goes or an assistant cut their spinal cord with scissors. >> my educated guess, a few jurors have a reasonable doubt. >> reporter: the defense attorney did not call one witness during the trial. instead, he tried to make its case through cross-examinations of the prosecution's witnesses, maintaining that any arm or leg movement or cries or moans by the babies were not signs of life, but rather, post mortem spagsms. what if the jury cannot reach a unanimous decision on the first-degree murder charges? >> the judge will interrogate the jurors and send them back and brow hem-beat them a bit. but once he is satisfied they cannot -- agree, he will declare a mistrial and the state will have to determine whether or not to retry the judge on that

charge. >> shannon: the jury has more than 260 other charges to decide, including third-degree murder of a patient. it may be taking them a while to get through all of those charges. >> shannon: joining us with perspective on the trial, tony perkins, president and ceo of the family research council. what's your impression of this trial, as it plays out? i have to tell you, i have been in philadelphia, tag-teaming with molly and a lot of folks on the street don't know who kermit gosnell is, much less the average american? >> good point, shannon. the reason is the media has ignored this case up until the last three or four weeks. we are well into this. this was two years ago that the grand jury released its report, 250-plus pages of what they called the house of horrors. so you are right. there is not a lot of people who know about it. there is a reason for that. the more people know about what

took place behind the doors of that so-called clinic, i think those who are supporting or advocating for abortion realize that this is not the best face to put on abortion. it shows the true story of this rejection of the value of human life. >> shannon: i thought it wassing into capitol hill, the sense of back and forth. senator mike lee on the republican senate side proposed a resolution, saying it's time for us to review the policy decisions that allowed the alleged conditions in the kermit gosnell trial to come to fruition. and democrats said, let's investigate all substandard abusive, illegal health care, clearly didn't want the word abortion associated with it but say that their resolution would cover abortion fwe're looking at all health care practices. on the house side, pledges to investigate this as well. what do you make of that?

>> i am for good health care. i think we need good standards across the board. but the reality is, shannon, it is the abortion clinics that have intentionally -- if you will -- slipped through the cracks. goes -- goes kermit gosnell's clinic was not investigated since 1993. abortion clinics don't have the same standards as a clinic where vetinariance operate. so they clearly have been carved out and not given the basic health care standards to ensure that women are okay. because in this case, or at least given a chance of basic medical conditions and survival. in this case, it is not just the babies that have died in this clinic, a woman died as well. that's one of the charges because there was not even the basic relationships with the

hospitals, want the basic... connections with the emergency medical facilities. so this is an issue of women's health. i am glad to see that congressman upton and the judiciary committee and the energy commerce committee have reached out to state officials and are saying, hey, are you enforcing current law ?r you regguling these clinics? this is a reason because under obama administration, federal dollars are going into the clinics now. >> shannon: we would hope that regardless of where folks stoond abortion we can agree that we want women to be safe when they seek out medical care. >> thank you. >> shannon: still to come, congressman darrell issa says americans have been lied to for months about what happened in benghazi. others say republicans are politicizing the attacks. il ask darrell issa, when he joins us live in the next hour. ♪

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>> that culture of that not wanting to be what it was actually contributed to the lowering of stasheds. this is a very important question that the investigations of all the committees need to find the answer to. >> i really think this this has become a very, very partisan-focused, scandal-focused attack by the

republicans investigating this. instead of trying to figure out exactly what happened. >> shannon: the benghazi hearings were a big fogus on the "fox news sunday." i talked with anchor chris wallace about his interviews with congressmen mike rogers and adam smith. talking about looking forward to the benghazi hearings, now that that happened this week, what do you think's left in the aftermath? >> i think this week turned out to be a lot bigger -- and there was a couple of things, it was not only the hearings, but the reporting by the weekly standard and fox and abc news on the talking points. at the end of the week, i think it's leer that the administration was not telling the truth about the talking points, they were reicize -- reicize -- revised a dozen times, in fact it was dramatic reworking of them at the insistence of state -- we don't know what the white house role was, but the white house participated -- to take out all the warnings over the previous

months about the threats to benghazi, all the fact that there were links between the people who carried out the attack and al qaeda -- there seems growing evidence that there was political scrubbing at the talking points and i think a growing sense that this story is far from over. >> shannon: very strong testimony from key players, who were there and saw this play out before the house this week, as they talked, very emotional at times. yet in the wake of that, a number of democrats are saying we didn't learn anything new and it's all political and much of it is aimed as stopping hillary clinton for 2016. with ammunition, dick cheney, former vice-president said you should subpoena hillary clinton and -- and some people in our panel think it wasn't wise two republican super pacs came out with what you can only call attack ads, blasting clinton. that adds to the narrative that this is partisan. >> shannon: "fox news sunday" gets to the other hot story-- the irs, taking a close look at

conservative groups. the power player is an international conversation. >> speaking of sensations, we have an exclusive interview with mark sanford. at one point, i feel like the initial enquirer here, it's worth watching. >> shannon: questions that had to be asked and did you it very well. chris, thank you. you can catch the entire and the one on one with congressman-elect mark sanford. "fox news sunday" airs right after our show, 2:00 and 6:00 eastern. coming up, a little boy suspended for pretending a pencil was a gun -- that's not the little girl. did the school react too harshly to a game of make-believe? that story is next. for seeing your business

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>> shannon: a little boy who pretended a pencil was a gun is back at school after being suspended o over that incident. more on that suspension. >> reporter: christopher is happy to be back at school with his friends. it seems like the first day after his suspension went well. >> i was happy to be back. >> reporter: he had to stay home monday and tuesday because the principal said he violated the weapons policy. christopher and another boy pointed pencils at each other and made gun noises. we caught up with christopher earlier this week and he showed us what he did.

>> a pencil is a weapon when it is pointed at one in a threatening way and gun noises are made. >> reporter: the school spokesperson and other administrators are standing behind the zero tolerance policy dehundreds of e-mails and calls from angry parents across the country. yesterday the school office got 75 calls an hour. more than one every minute. >> the community support has been marvelous. i want to thank everyone. >> reporter: people like brett bell who wrote to the pinnal all the way from oklahoma "the people of sufficien suffolk she outraged. you you should be fired. christopher's mother wants an apology. here goal is to get his schedule back to normal. >> we will still hang out in the backyard and have nerf wars and still do everything that we did before.

the fact is we want the facts. we're entitled to the facts. the american people were effectively lied to for a period of about a month. that is important to get right. >> shannon: republican congressman darrell issa says congress must get to the bottom of what happened in benghazi. after hearing from eyewitnesses connected to the attack that killed four americans the chairman of the house oversight committee says he wants to question he under oath the leaders of an earlier review board. darrell issa joins us live coming up. fair and balanced also from the seam committee danny davis will be here as well. some republicans see a coverup and some democrats say this is part political play and part witch hunt. i'm shannon bream. hour number two of america's news headquarters live from the nation's capital starts right now. lawmaker from both parties wasted no time tangling over

different versions of the benghazi attack. steve centanni is following it right now. hi, steve. >> reporter: accusations flying. republicans claiming there was a coverup and democrats say it is an effort to discredit hillary clinton. e-mails show an effort by the administration to edit the controversial tacking points about what -- talking points about what led to benghazi. the central issue is sue you san rice's claim on five talk shows that a video created the conflict when in fact it was a terrorist attack. >> i would call it a coverup. i would call it a coverup in the extent there was willful removal of information which was obvious. it was obvious. mr. hicks sade in his testimony his jaw you dropped when saw susan rice do that. i was on another sunday morning

show after susan rice. my jaw dropped. >> in that attack four americans were killed including the u.s. ambassador to libya chris stevens. republican ares say requests for extra security in advance of the attack were rejected and they hold secretary of state hillary clinton responsible but democrats say it is all driven by partisan politics. >> my concern is when hillary clinton's name is mentioned 32 times in a hearing that the point of the hearing is to discredit the secretary of state who has high popularity and may well be a candidate for president. >> senator rand paul said because of the incident h hillary clinton should be precluded from holding higher office. shannon? >> shannon: steve centanni with the latest. thank you. the firestorm over the irs decession to target conservative political groups is getting hotter. a draft report by the inspector general is calling into question who knew what and when. peter doocy has more details. hi, peter. >> reporter: if the irs was

unfair lawmakers plan to figure out whose idea that was and soon. >> they targeted conservatives for tax exempt status but the bottom line is used key he words to go after conservatives. this is something you have to institute changes to make sure it doesn't happen again. >> reporter: a watch dog group's report details a meeting that lois learner attended, the director of the irs division in charge of tax exempt status where the words tea party, patriots and the 9/12 project were triggers for special scrutiny. also groups representing issues about government spending, government debt or taxes. director lerner ordered a change in the policy right away and now she is saying sorry. >> my bottom line here is we i think the irs would like to apologize for that. it was not intentional. as soon as we found out what was going on we took steps to

make it better and i don't expect those things to reoccur. >> reporter: in a statement white house press secretary jay carney says if the inspector general finds there were any rules broken or conduct of government oh o the ground fixes did not meet the standards required of them the president expects that swift and appropriate steps will be taken to address any misconduct. as lawmakers continue to press the irs for answers about the policy, republican senator susan collins told cnn it is outrageous and contributes to the profound distrust that the american people have in government. shannon? >> shannon: peter thank you. here with her reaction congressman ailian that ros-lehtinen. we are glad to have you. >> thank you so much for the invitation. >> shannon: let's start with the irs. what do you make of the admission but also an apology that conservative groups were target the? >> that is almost like a

kindergarten ploy. they should be he up before hearings and i'm gladded that eric cantor said we will have an investigation and hearings. they should be under oath and testify as to who gave the orders. these kinds of actions to not take place by just one individual care arerying out a whelm. someone gave orders to go after the tea party conservatives, any group that has patriot in its names. that is an absolute political witch hunt. the democrats are a i 'cuing the republicans of having a fare investigation into -- unfair investigations into benghazi and they say that is a witch hunt. this is what is the irs is doing. going after conservative groups in order to sway opinions of the electorate. it is shameful and they should be he fired after the investigation, who is responsible, who called the orders and i'm thinking it will go way up to the top. >> shannon: do you think youville democratic colleagues join you because i think they would be united in the concept

we don't want any one targeted. >> a lot of them say they apologized and this will not happen again to let's move on to the the important topics. this is an important topic. a misuse of a government agency that has incredible power and then the spokesperson says i'm not really good at math and makes light of it. this is targeting groups in order to sway the electorate before the election. it deserve is to be investigated. are apology not accepted. >> shannon: and jay carney said the president will stand by any need for punishment if there has been misconduct here. another hearing coming more quickly this week a committee you have chaired foreign affairs, foreign relations and a look at how we are doing with iran as it progresses by all accounts to some level of nuclear capability. what is your assessment of where they are now and how we are doing dealing with that potential threat? >> i think this administration

has had a failed policy when it comes to iran sanctions from the get-go. any time they can loosen the sanctions or give waivers to countries or companies they have done so. we will hold them to -- their feet to the fire and say no more waivers, no more exemptions we will hold everyone accountable and make sure that they stop doing business with iran. if they want to do business with iran they are welcome to do so but they can't also do business with the united states. this administration keeps saying all options are on the table. yet at the same time they keep having discussions of the five plus one countries, negotiations with iran. what does that get us? more time for iran to keep spinning the centrifuges. we made no progress. the sanctions haven't been enforced and this policy of the administration has been an utter failure. >> shannon: faifair to say that other administrations didn't do as good a job as well?

>> other administrations did not do a good job either. it has a been a failed policy for republicans and democrats. we are dealing with the situation right now, where it poses a threat to our ally the democratic jewish state of israel and to the united states and to all of our interests in the middle east so now more so than ever because they are ever closer to being a nuclear state even though how to we are more cognizant of what a threat it poses. so shame on all of the administrations for their lackadaisical attitude about the real threat to the contract. the time to wake up is now. let's enforce the sanctions and no more waivers. >> shannon: keep an eye on the hearing on wednesday. good to see you. >> thank you. all the best. congrats, shannon. >> shannon: the former pakistani prime minister is stepping back into his former role after yesterday's his toric election. conor pow you well is leave with details on how changes in the government could affect the

relations with the u.s. >> reporter: the results aren't official yet but you the former prime minister is set to return to power for the third time since the early '90s. his party the pakistan muslim league is set to win half of the open seats. he may have to join forces with a smaller party but shared if is set to form what could be he a stable government. one government will pass power to another. the campaign was marred by violence and reports of the voter fraud. sharis was prime minister in 1999 when the military overthrew them. he faces many challenges including widespread corruption and a shrinking economy. sharif said he will renegotiate pakistan's relationship with the united states. he wants to end the u.s. drone program there that targets mel tants in the tribal areas but the program has killed

countless civilians and is deeply unpopular. will the new you government try to wrestle power away from the pakistan pow youerful military which long supported the taliban here in afghanistan? most u.s. commanders say there will be no peace here in afghanistan until the pakistani military stops its support for it the taliban. whether or not that happens is a beg question. >> shannon: many questions looming in the wake of that election. thanks so much. in northern california, a 12-year-old charged with the murder of his 8-year-old sister. leili fowler was killed in late april. he alleged that he found his is sister wounded and had seen a grey haired intruder leaving the home. the accusations set up you a massive manhunt and police have not said now whenthy think the boy is the one who was involved. in the last 90 days the federal government has posted

6,616 newly proposed federal leg regulations at regulations gets gov and a heated debate on the coast of california. a family owned business there says the government is trying to shut them down but the government says the 40 year lease on the land has run out and it will not be renewed because it is having a negative impact on the environment. the dispute as you might have expected has landed in court. several actually. joining me kevin, the owner of drake's bay oyster company. thanks for joining us today. >> thank is for having is me. >> this sits inside a national park or preserve area and came up in 201 but you have business interests going on there. the government says you are harming the environment so the lease isn't going to be renewed. what is the latest? >> well, the reservation of use and occupancy which is the lease is explicitly renewable. the oyster farm is in the middle of the working landscapes. we are surrounded by

agricultural operations all the way around down to every shore and so the park service essentially made up some allegations of environmental harm. those were all cleared up by the national academy of sciences and by the interior inspector general and by the sew lit issueser's office but the allegations are still out there in the public domain and so people are still confused. so that is where we are today with the science. >> shannon: we know that there is a federal hearing this week in federal court in san francisco. there are some state actions going on as well. meantime, tell us if you lose the lease and the space where you are providing by the last account i read 40% of the market share of supply in california what happens to the market there and more importantly what happens to your employees? >> well, we have 30 employees that will loser that jobs and half of them will lose their homes.

they live on the farm. that has been a 100 year tradition and existed long before it became a national seais shore and plays a huge role in a coastal community. a coastal dependent use and the coastal economy i. so what we have is our entire county and the north san francisco bay area completely in support of the continuation of the oyster farm but the interior department and washington, d.c. have kind of refused to work with gateway community in this case and they are kind of creating an island with a huge consequence if the oyster farm gets shut down. >> shannon: we will follow this. again, i said you will be in federal court on tuesday i believe it is in san francisco. so keep us updated. we would love to know as the two sides battle over the science and your business and your employees as well. thank you so much, sir,, for your time. >> thank you. >> shannon: some explosive words this morning on benghazi. a coverup or a poe let cal witch hunt now.

ahead, fair and balanced we will speak to congressman danny davis from the house oversight committee. a democrat. later are on the chair of that committee, republican congressman darrell issa will join us. first, a fight for religious freedom or discrimination. a christian flourest sued for refusing to service a same sex ceremony. weigh in on that debate. tweet us your answers to @ anhqdc or @ shannon bream. i'm dale kennedy with hsc 37 in afghanistan. i would like to say happenmy mother's day to my beautiful wife katie kennedy and my mother bridget luke. my wife lives in georgia and my mom in ohio. happy mother's day and i love you! i'm so glad you called. thank you.

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>> shannon: the washington state attorney general has filed a consumer protection action against a florist who refused to provide no provide r a same sex therapy. she said it is because of her relationship with jesus christ.

dana has more. >> reporter: she has made bouquets for hundreds of weddings but only ever turned down one. >> all the way through. i grabbed his hand and i said i'm sorry i can't do your wedding because of my relationship with jesus christ. >> reporter: robert and his partner took their story online and it quickly went viral. the attorney general's office two weeks ago sent this letter to stutzman warning them not providing flowers for the couple is a violation of the state's antidiscrimination law. >> someone who has fairly blatantly denied service to a gay couple because of their sexual orient tax increase. orientation. there was no dispute but you for the fact they were gay she would have been happy to provide services. >> reporter: the legislature did debate the issue and decided to carve out an exemption for religious institutions only. >> we he did specifically

decline to do that for florists. that was a feature of the campaign. the opponents talked about the failure to exclude that exemption as a reason not to approve the law. the voters of the state of washington did not agree with them. so at this point the law is actually pretty straightforward. >> and the reason he is wrong about that is that arlene's flowers has had gay employees. served the couple in question for years. never been a complaint. this is not about not providing services to gay people. this is about there is a particular activity this particular bess owner was not comfortable with. >> reporter: joseph backhome is with the policy institute whose group signed on to a letter challenging the suit. the flourist's attorney says heel -- the flour rest isabel attorney says' ranging flowers is an act of expression and any infringement on that violates

her first amendment rights of free speech. >> would you compel an artist to paint a portrait inconsistent with who the artist was. you wouldn't. there is strong decase law on this. >> the flower shop owner is standing firm. >> not a matter of you are right or you are wrong. it is just how i believe. >> shannon: the aclu has also filed a suit against the flourist. florist. well, as this consumer protection or freedom of speech? david i will start with you. there is a clear law here in florists is were notere not given the exemption. >> this is a freedom of speech constitutional violation as this law is applied against

this particular florist. she has the right to practice the feat not just in church but in her business. she made it clear she would tell to them and work with them. they have been long standing customers. this is not a business discrimination. this is the state of washington bullying this woman i believe unconstitutionally into doing sing that violates her rights as a religiousle person and violates her rights to speak as an artist when she does the now youers there is a statement in that. if pornographers can is free speech she should have the seam freedom. >> there was a broad and deep consensus in america 50 years ago that given the way commerce works it is best for everyone if people who are holding themselves out to the public providing goods and services are not permitted to discriminate even on deeply held beliefs. liberals believe in equality

and kumbaya and all that but conservatives like that, because you request go to the store and beyourself a six pack without having to go three you a check list, prochoice. antiabortion. support the war. oppose the war. a crestian. a jew, a mormon who is lapsing. just give me the beer, all right! you are not supposed to have your nose in the business you are supposed to is sell me the product. mr. gibbs makes two different points here. one is this is expression of her religious faith and it may well be. as a lawyer he knows full well for example that say i refuse to pay my taxes because my religious belief says i shouldn't support war. and in truth i think jesus said a lot more about war than he did about flowers at gay weddings. how does that work out when i sea i refuse to pay my taxes as a matter of deep religious paying don't want to be

for the killing of other people. i lose, right? >> you will lose as a taxpayer because the law you is clear on taxpayer standing but when you are looking at a government in this case the state of washington telling this woman not just that she has to sell flowers, nobody is disputing she sold them flowers for almost a decade but to force her to go do what violates her faith and by the way the freedoms cut in all directions. i believe a homosexual florist should be able to say i'm uncomfortable with a muslim wedding. the market as you said can handle this so much better. is this really what we want our tax dollars, the state of washington investing time and effort going after this one christian woman who says you know what i feel uncomfortable personally participating in this. she will sell them the flowers. she just doesn't want to be in the ceremony. >> that's fine.

it is not discrimination against gays, it is discrimination against gay marriage. fine. what if she decides that today, are mother's day, happy mother's day everybody i don't want to send flowers to a lesbian mom or a gun own o the grounding mom or a mom who is supporting gun control? do we really in this society want to be in a position where every merchant who sells us anything gets to pry into our most personal and intimate religion beliefs. beliefs? you hold yourself ought to the public as selling flowers. sell the dang flowers. >> and she would and she has sold them the flowers and we are not asking that people inquire when you sell a product. if they want to take the flowers to their own wedding but she are sitting here just like attorneys you know this you and i can decide whether we will get involved in a case and the aclu can decide and churches can decide and business owners should have the right to decide when they are

going to personally participate. that is where the free speech. >> i respect that. >> that is where the freedom of religion comes in. >> i totally reis spect your belief that that is so as long as you recognize there is 50 years of law and litigation and supreme court decisions from contract supreme court that simply says you are wrong. i admire your creativity. i love the free expression argument that arranging flowers is a form of speech. it is symbolic speech conveying an idea. i mean i think that is totally charming. i used to be a grill cook for example and when i made my food on o the ground the grill i viewed it as expressing man's isolation in the universe a world without god. everybody else just saw you cheeseburgers and fries and i still had to serve them to people whether they were christians or buddhists or gay people or drunks or red necks

because i was in the business of selling cheeseburgers. >> shannon: i like how creative both of you are on the topic today. thank you very much and we will watch and see how it plays out in court. thank you. >> absolute pleasure. >> shannon: we will talk to the chairman of the house oversight committee about hearings with eyewitnesses to the benghazi attacks that left four americans dead. don't miss it. it's next. greetings i'm captain ma leka rodriguez from kandahar afghanistan. i would like to say happy mother's day to my mother lynn rodriguez and cheryl mcnear and all of the mothers out there. happy mother's day! we love to eat.

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>> shannon: thomas pickering former u.s. ambassador are and cochair of the benghazi

accountability review board is defending his report. along with mike mullen pickering released a scathing review that criticized security at the u.s. outpost in libya. however, he said that his board did not look into the controversial and incorrect talking points used by u.s. ambassador to the u.n. susan rice after the attack. >> they were not part of our investigation. they he came after the fact and our investigation was security in benghazi and the events leading up with respect to security in benito. sbenghazi. there is nothing i can add from in any particular issue of expertise on the issue of talking points. >> shannon: john mccain called the changes to the talking points a "coverup." darrell issa wants sworn depositions with pickering and mullen. will he get them? congressman issa joins us today. thank you for your time today. >> this morning, congressman

pickering agreed to them and that is a great step in the direction to get it straight on how they reached decisions on a narrow basis one that only the lowest level of people responsible while finding 29 area of deficiency including the building itself in which the ambassador died. >> shannon: to you is an arb report in total if there wasn't a review of the talking points why weren't they included? >> well, are this was a very narrow report required by congress. there has been 19 of them since 1986 and it is really intended to be although they call it independent it is a review requested by and given to the secretary of state. in this case this was a mistake far greater than the secretary of state. there was no contingent plan even after multiple attacks by the department of defense. there were department of defense employees that were told to stand down that they couldn't be he part of the relief effort even from within libya and ultimately this

report was not allowed to look as you said at a lot of things. here is the one that our committee finds frustrating. they reached conclusions with a we have been denied. data and >> shannon: and there are democrats on the sunday shows seaing republicans have been given thousands of pages of e-mails and documents and you have what you need. are what is it you are still lacking? >> first of all, we haven't been given anything. every day a mind fresh the state department comes in with the documents and we can look through them but not take pictures of them and not record anything from them and we found deficiencies items we have been able to get through whistle blowers that are not in the stack of documents. that is not how you discovery is done. even the names of those interested and present in benghazi has been made available to us. the fact witnesses that the ambassador said he interviewed we don't even have the names of them yet. >> shannon: how do you respond

to the accusations this is a political witch hunt and going after democrats and hillary clinton in particular and her hopes if she decides to run in 2016. there are already political groups using portions of this investigation and the hearing in ads going after hillary clinton. how you do you refute that is what this is about? >> first of all, i had nothing to do with hillary clinton losing the nomination to a freshman senator named barack obama. we are not playing in the democratic pry rathers so we are not even involved in that. here is what we are involved in. three career state department employees came in as qualified whistle blowers told us things that they knew that the american people should have known from the get-go. and i use the word get-go because gregory hicks said within minutes after being told by the now deceased ambassador greg we are under attack he told the state department at his levels all the way to the operations center in washington we are are under attack and knew from the get-go it was an al-qaeda backed september 11th

attack. and that never got into any report and certainly when secretary clinton called gregory hicks at 2:00 in the morning the next day september 12 now in the morning while the attack was still underway that was a time in which she could have asked the question where do you you think the attack came from. saying that the cia said x when you get them to change it 12 times flies in the face of what the top-ranking diplomats said within minutes of the attack. >> shannon: i want you to stick around. when we come back i want you to answer the question whether there it are other whistle blowers in the wings we may hear from as well and the irs targeting contract group conses and where an investigation on that might go. stick around.

>> shannon: we have been talking with the republican chairman darrell issa about benghazi, the explosive hearing this week. one more question on that before we get to another hot topic. thank you for sticking around on this. are there other benghazi whistle blowers who will come forward no you that they have seen the hearing? >> the committee has been meeting with many people who are witnesses but a great many are afraid to come forward. they are afraid of the kind of treatment that gregory hicks and others got once they began saying that they he didn't see the story the same as the administration. so we do expect to have some come forward. the important thing how to is we think we have a breakthrough with the administration will have to let is talk to the other fact witnesses openly. and that is really the right

way to do this sort of coequal investigation. >> shannon: i want to turn to the irs. they admitted and apologized late last week that they looked at groups who were applying for tax exempt status based on social welfare groups, the 0 01 c 4s and looking for the word tea party or patriot or 912 they got extra scrutiny and didn't always get approved, if they did it took months. >> there is an ongoing investigation that is the reason for this epiphany of asking for forgiveness. the irs has to show there are measures to punish those who did it and to prevent it from happening in the future. those are important particularly after you you realize that high ranking irs officials knew two years ago that this was going on and

tenning having denials until a few weeks ago. >> shannon: what do you make of the fact that top leaders of the ers appointed by president bush and the fact that this was happening on their watch. >> i think we have to look past the partisan part of this and the reason is simple. the american people know that if it could happen to a conservative group today it could happen to a progressive group tomorrow. i'm old enough to remember when martin luther king was targeted by federal authorities for scrutiny. that is not the america any of us want to live in. fixing this is about fixing it, of course, for those who are targeted but fixing it for all americans so they never have to question whether their first amendment rights essentially land them in an irs review. >> shannon: during the benghazi hearings there was tack of bipartisanship and republicans saying we don't want this to be about party politics. this would be a moment for bipartisanship. with the irs may have a better

argument of gentlemenning some democratic colleagues along with you on that because of what you just note. >> we expect that me ranking member and i will be doing this arm in arm for that reason of knowing that in the past it has been people on his side of the political aisle that have been targeted and more importantly for the most part the violations here, there are very few political appointees at the ers. these are people who are there who have their own agenda. was it curtailed by political' pointes that remains to be seen. but was it something inherently wrong within the irs that needs to be prevented in the future. absolutely. particularly as you get into complex computer is systems we have to make sure that somebody isn't dropping something in that hurts a particular group or ideology they oppose. >> shannon: do you think there will be pushback on the irs for other things, things related to the new healthcare law, and how that may, you know, intercept

with people's personal political beliefs? >> i think you said it very well. the fact that we expanded the irs role under obamacare is a huge opportunity for an a entity that is already some what dysfunctional to do more harm and so we need assurances and institutional changes to make sure that doesn't happen but we believe that the inspector general's report is going to help with that and we expect to work with that arm so that this not be partisan to that mr. cummings and i can push to get the change and then have the administration administer it in a way that, again, keeps political parties out of it because some day there will be a different president. we don't want any administration to be able to do what this one appears to have done. >> shannon: i think all americans can agree on that regardless of their party. chairman issa, thank you very much for your team. >> thank you. >> shannon: residents abandoning their homes as small cracks in the wall turn into gaping holes.

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>> shannon: talking with chairman darrell issa about both benghazi and the irs. we scheduled danny davis.

thraves mixup and we hope he will be able to joan us next week. we will keep is fare and balanced. a california sub division is collapsing and no one can federal government out why. one of our most clicked stories. peter doocy live with the stories you are are reading online. >> reporter: residents are abandoning their home because of what one home owner calls a slow motion disaster. the ground around the homes is slow le collapsing. built in a hilly area with dormant volcanoes and officials believe the water is bubbling to the surface to the ground and that is to blame. but they can't explain how or why. this is unlike sinkholes which swallow houses in an instant because this collapse moves sporadically and the county has asked governor jerry brown to declare a state of emergency for the 30-year-old neighborhood. the houston zoo is rereleasing some of its endangered species into the wild. the zoo has made its mission to

rehabilitate several groups of animals like the atwater prairie chicken and houston toad. the numbers are are so low it would be impossible for the animals to rebound on their own. the mayor of rome is apologizing to british tourists who paid $80 for four ice cream cones. $80 for four ice cream cones. they complained about bying mistreated at the cafe and that got the attention of the mayor who has invited them back. >> shannon: hopefully for free ice cream. >> if you see it is $20 each a whole family can't just share a cone because that is not sanitary. >> shannon: and nobody would want to do that. i'm not good when i have to convert money to other currencies. i would be like i paid $8.20. >> there is an app for that. >> shannon: thank you, peter. by now most of us have filed our taxes, right?

maybe not. brenda buttner here today to talk about what we all try to avoid, the tax filing errors which gum up the roberts sessions. hello, brenda. >> you rush to get your taxes in and now you realize you made a mistake. you are certainly not alone. two million taxpayers made nearly 3 million mistakes last year. >> and they file by february. trying to get the refund and then months later things trickle in because that is the way life is. >> the most common tax filing error occurs when calculating the amount of tax owed. you can fix the mistakes with a 1040 x form. get one from the irs website. it is three columns that are easy to fell out. >> one which shows the original documentation, the original numbers income deductions etan is set a on the return that you filed and then the corrected numbers in a second column and the third shows differences. >> the details are necessary to support the changes you have made. >> w-2s that were missing and 1099s missing any schedules if you are teaing certain

deductions that you didn't have a schedule attached that is what you have to put on the attachment to the 1040. >> the irs usually corrects small math errors for you you. >> the mathematical errors will be caught by the irs. if a w-2 didn't get attached or a form wasn't attached those things are filed with the irs. you don't have to go through an amendment process. >> all this matters because you filed early and want the refund. you cannot efile an amended tax return it must be is sent in the mail but you it can be tracked on the irs website where is my amended return page. in other business news, small businesses are getting out of the credit crunch. small biz loan approveles up at big banks. that is the word. lending approvals jumped in april to an all time index high of 17%. approvals up over 50% at big banks. back to you. >> shannon: thank you very

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>> shannon: check it out. it is is a formula one ferrari race car flying over the sea to get to a grand prix race in spain. the spanish race is the fifth of the season and kicks off the formula one european season. that is it for us here in washington today. "fox news sunday" is up next. before we go an extra special mother's day to our pro deucer lacy. she is spending with t. with her gorgeous new born son daniel. congratulations. i'm shannon bream. happy mother's day to all our moms out there. thanks so much for watching!

>> chris: i'm chris wallace. today, benghazi under the microscope. >> when you said what you said, did you know that this had gone through 12 versions? >> we not offer that information? >> the phrase is let's not put this out because we don't want to be criticize. >> this is an effort to accuse the administration of hiding something that we did not hide. >> chris: amid renewed charges of a coverup calls for a special inquiry. >> we should have a joint committee of the appropriate committees asking what really happened in benghazi? >> chris: we'll talk with two congressmen at the center of the storm. the chair of the house in tell